History: Fiction or Science? (Chronology, No. 1)

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Recorded history is a finely-woven magic fabric of intricate lies about events predating the sixteenth century. There is not a single piece of evidence that can be reliably and independently traced back earlier than the eleventh century. This book details events that are substantiated by hard facts and logic, and validated by new astronomical research and statistical analysis of ancient sources.

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Calculations are only as good as your numbers.......2007-08-03

Yes, we can all agree that mainstream history is nearly 100% BS due to politics, economics, ego, problems with dating techniques, and various conspiracies. Agreed. But, I've been researching the distinct possibility that human history (in terms of civilizations) are much more ancient than we've been told, so coming across this book was very interesting to me. I wondered how Fomenko could be wrong (if at all) because he is very persuasive in his presentations. Then it dawned on me. If at previous times in prehistory, due to the various catastrophies that are well documented (comets, asteroids, planetary disruptions, plasma discharge, pole reversals, etc) the Earth was in a different position in relation to the sun, different tilt on its axis, different orbit, different rotation (in terms of velocity and DIRECTION), and the continents were in different positions, then would this not cause the ancients to see the sky (constellations) differently? In other words, is Fomenko making erronious assumptions about the physics of the Earth in pre-history, which then corrupt his data with regards to dating the relevant astrology? The last event to seriously disrupt our planet occured roughly 3500 years ago, according to other good researchers, so is it possible Fomenko has been confused by this? The vastly different physics of our planet in the not so distant past may explain this confusion, which is not to say the "mainstream" version of history is correct; on the contrary. I am not an expert in these fields, but wanted to see if this idea could spark discussion.

Pants on fire?.......2007-07-19

Will people ever read before spamming? Yes, Jesuits could not rewrite world history alone, they had help. Anyway, Dr Prof Acad A.Fomenko does not point to jesuits as the driving force of world wide history manipulation in published volumes 1,2,3;, actually he barely mentions the poor devils. Check it with 'Search inside' feature, please. China is rarely mentioned either, in fact, Dr Fomenko is completely eurocentric. Right, his theory contradicts all mainstream schools of history, because in their actual state they are all built on blatantly erroneus chronology. You don't need a mysterious cabal (conspiracy) to falsify history, the falsification is its modus operandi. It is inherent to history(ians) to falsify (distort) events, as it is inherent to humans to boast as it is inherent to power (authority) to legimize itself by referrring to glorious past made to its own order. Dr Prof Fomenko and team have identified scores of instances of such manipulation in Russian, European, etc.. history, and delivered valid statistical proof thereof. His own 'reconstruction' is completely another story. Forget c14 as a valid method of dating. W.Libby has initially discovered a brilliant method of INDEPENDENT dating. Too bad, c14 method has become a joke after a forced marrige with dendrochronology with consensual chronological scale inbuilt. Radiocarbon method can't stand blind tests, but is so very productive as a rubberstamp.

Accepted History & Chronology Must Be Changed. .......2007-04-09

There is no doubt that history as most know it is a sham, & institution's version of History both University & Church is fradulent & inaccurate. Everything was established with an agenda, The real "Dark Ages" are now when we have access to incredible amounts of information past authorities & more important 'common folk' didn't have but our institutions & educators are slow to evolve because of what has ignorantly & arrogantly been taught for too long. This is on many subjects not just Chronology.

For anyone to question "Why would a Mathematician have anything credible to say of History?" The answer is from Dr. Fomenko's preface in the book: "It would be worthwhile to remind the reader that in the XVI-XVII century Chronology was considered to be a subdivision of Mathematics." These volumes could possibly be some of the most important works to date & should be read by everyone with an interest in History, especially professors & educators who have a duty to the public. I have read both books & must say that 'Chronology 1' has some very eye opening & revolutionary information. Even if these volumes are part true the implications are profound & opens the doors to further investigations & questions which must be done. I speak several different lanquages & must say the logic Dr. Fomenko uses with "inflection" of words & words being read from left to right in one region & right to left in another then written backwards, the removal of vowels & get down to basics of words, or different cities & locations having the same name etc. is correct. Vowel usage has always been optional & varied, actually complicating linquistics & study. The first thing one has to understand is that words never had a fixed spelling in history like we do now, the spelling of words was mutable & regional, as well as names & titles of people were vast, varied & changed, NOTHING WAS FIXED or understood linear. Matters of Life & Death as well as financial profiteering yesterday & today were & are made with ignorant, illogical & conspiratorial views of history & reality, it's time people get closer to the Truth & society collectively grow up.

Very Interesting.......2007-03-07

It is a good proposal and I believe it will mature into something even better in the future. I think it deserves to be read.

History as Science Fiction.......2007-01-10

Anatoly Fomenko has written a very intriguing book, full of pictures, charts, and computer 'proof' of his thesis: backwards of AD900 we don't really know what happened or when. Between AD900 and AD1600 there is more certainty, but there is still a lot of fuzzy ground, and things don't get reliable until we get past the 1600's where the printing press made it very difficult for the perpetrators of this timeline manipulation to change anything that had been committed to print. The Dark Ages did not happen. Books were burned for a reason. One organization has doubled the actual length of its existence by expanding the real chronology. Read why.

I had always wondered why Christ died about AD33 and yet men waited until the 11th century to form the Knights Templar, the Cathars, etc and go after the Holy Land by force. Why the 1000 year gap? Turns out there wasn't more than a 10-12 year gap and he proves it using astronomy. This also implies that the planet is not as old as we have been told, and current Christian and other creationist scientists are already championing that idea without being aware of Fomenko's book. The two groups, creationist scientists and the Russian mathematical analysts corroborate each other. Fascinating.

Of course, all this flies in the face of what we have been told traditionally is the 'proper' chronology of western civilization, and most readers will experience 'cognitive dissonance' in reading this book. It means that our history going backwards from AD1600 becomes progressively more incorrect and unreliable until it cannot be trusted at all... in the space of 700-800 years.

Naturally, the curious, open-minded reader will want to know WHO did this, WHY, and did any of the events we think of as really ancient ever happen?
Dr. Fomenko is a respected scientist/mathematician at Moscow State University who has already answered these questions to the satisfaction of his initially skeptical colleagues. Most of them are now believers, a few still refuse to believe (the usual diehards), and of course the western press has ignored Fomenko's work -- for obvious reasons when you read the book. The ones who perpetrated this chronology ruse have a lot to answer for. They are still with us. That's why this book is a well-kept secret.

I gave the book a 4-star rating because I was unable to check out some of his claims; those I checked were as he said. But if even 1/3 of his claims are true, this punches a big hole in what we think is our history, the meaning of western civilization, our educational process (for repeating the ruse as gospel), and the trustworthiness of the organization that perpetrated this ruse, well-intentioned or not.

This book relates to current research into a Young Earth paradigm, to John Keel's discoveries about our planet, and Fr Malachi Martin's insights (in his now out-of-print books). We are indeed sheep who are manipulated and kept ignorant -- for a reason. While knowing what these men have to say may be the "booby prize" (as in: 'what can you do with this knowledge?'), it will provide interesting reading. Didn't someone say: "...and the Truth will set you free."?? For you to judge if this book contains the truth.

History: Fiction or Science? Chronology 2 (Chronology)

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`History: Fiction or Science? Chronology 2` is the second volume of the most explosive and astounding tractate on history ever written - however, every theory it contains, no matter how unorthodox, is backed by rock solid scientific data. The book is easy and pleasant to read; it is well-illustrated, contains hundreds of charts, graphs and illustrations, copies of ancient manuscripts, and countless facts attesting to the falsity of the chronology used nowadays. You will be amazed to discover: - That the chronology universally accepted today and taken for granted is simply wrong; - That ALL methods of dating of ancient sources and artefacts known today are erroneous or non-exact; - That there is not a single document that could be reliably dated earlier than the XIth century; The Author refers to the Middle Ages as the Antiquity and proves mutual superimposition of the Second and the Third Roman Empire, both of which become identified as the respective kingdoms of Israel and Judah. Furthermore, he asserts that the famous reform of the Occidental Church in the XI century by Pope Gregory Hildebrand was the reflection of the XII century reforms of Byzantine emperor Andronicus who in his turn identifies with Jesus Christ. The Trojan war counted by Homer happened only as late as of the XIII century A.D. and the great poet actually lived in XIV century A.D. No stone in history of Antiquity is left unturned. Literally. This book is the beginning of a major correction to the chronology we live with.

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Check and see.......2007-06-21

I don't care what other people say of this book. Those affirmig it's fake, they hadn't ever read it. Or have some special reasons to do so. "Living is easy with eyes closed, misunderstanding all you see..." This book won't make you feel comfortable. It'll make you feel free. It'll make you feel you're "not the only one" to feel you'd been lied to for centuries.

Suprise! Suprise!.......2007-03-22

Here is a serie of books which turns "the whole world" upside down. I learned a lot of it and I hope that a new book from A.T. Fomenko will follow very quick. A absolute must for everybody who is interested in history or even a little bit from it.

Prescient St Augustine?.......2006-02-05

We can so far divide the New Chronology into the following three parts:

a) The verifiable theory that proves consensual chronology wrong with the aid of astronomy, statistics and mathematics;

b) The new chronology hypothesis based on a new understanding of known historical facts and the most likely logical explanation of the most obvious inconsistencies inherent in the official version of history;

c) The history conjectures, that is experimental historical reconstructions based on assumptions that the authors believe to make sense in the light of their research and linguistic parallels - void of ironclad factual support to date.

Fomenko's theory complies with the most rigid scientific standards as a whole:

It gives a coherent explanation of what we already know.

- It is consistent: independent lines of inquiry all lead to the same conclusion.

- The predictions it makes are confirmed empirically.

Fomenko goes by the following axioms:

- Chronology is the basis of history;

- Human evolution has always been linear, gradual and irreversible;

- The "cyclic" nature of human civilization is a myth, likewise all the gaps, duplicates, "dark ages" and "renaissances" that we know from consensual history;

- The accumulation of geographical knowledge as reflected in cartography is a gradual and irreversible process;

- The chronological distance between a given manuscript and the events described therein is proportional to the amount of distortions it contains;

- There is no "useless" information in authentic ancient sources.

Why the mainstream historians do not shower mathematician Academician Dr.Prof Fomenko with thanks and laurels?

The Russians:

Because Fomenko asserts that there was no such thing as the Tartar and Mongol invasion followed by three centuries of slavery, providing a formidable body of documental evidence to prove his assertion. The so-called "Tartars and Mongols" were the actual ancestors of the modern Russians, living in a bilingual state with Arabic spoken as freely as Russian. The ancient Russian state was governed by a double structure of civil and military authorities. The hordes were actually professional armies with a tradition of lifelong conscription (the recruitment being the so-called "blood tax"). Their "invasions" were punitive operations against the regions that attempted tax evasion. Fomenko proves that Russian history as we know it today is a blatant forgery concocted by a host of German scientists brought to Russia by the usurper dynasty of the Romanovs, whose ascension to the throne was the result of coup d'état, charged with the mission of making their reign look legitimate. Fomenko proves Ivan the Terrible to be a collation of four rulers, no less. They represented the two rival dynasties - the legitimate rulers and the ambitious upstarts. The winner took it all! Over some 30 years of controversy, Russian historians have made a most remarkable transition - they were initially accusing the young mathematician Fomenko of anticommunist dissident activity and attempts to deface the historical legacy of Soviet Russia; nowadays the middle-aged mathematician is accused of adhering to "pro-communist Russian nationalism" and defacing the proud historical legacy of Great Russia.

The Westerners:

Because Fomenko blows consensual Russian history to smithereens, successfully removing a crucial cornerstone from underneath the otherwise impeccable edifice of World History. Fomenko adds insult to injury, wiping out one by one the Ancient Rome (the foundation of Rome in Italy is dated to the XIV century A. D.), the Ancient Greece and its numerous poleis, which he identifies as the mediaeval crusader settlements on the territory of Greece, and the Ancient Egypt (the pyramids of Giza become dated to the XI-XV century A. D. and identified as the royal cemetery of the Global "Mongolian" Empire, no less). The civilization of the Ancient Egypt is irrefutably dated to the XII-XV century A. D. with the aid of the ancient Egyptian horoscopes cut in stone. He was the first one to decipher and date all such horoscopes, coming up with mediaeval dates in every case. English historians rage at the suggestion that the history of Ancient England was de facto a Byzantine import transplanted to the English soil by the fugitive Byzantine nobility. To reward the English historians who consider themselves the true scribes of World History, the cover of the present book portrays Tintoretto's Jesus Christ crucified on the Big Ben.

The Chinese:

Because Fomenko wipes out the Ancient History of China outright. No such thing. Full point. The compilation of the so-called Ancient Chinese History is reliably datable to the XVII-XVIII century only. It is perfectly recognizable as the Ancient European history, reworked and transcribed in hieroglyphs as yet another historical transplantation, this time performed on the Chinese soil by the loving Jesuit hands. The Chinese are the next in line to go berserk. Chinese history is inevitably bound to get both more ancient and more eventful, proportionally to the growing involvement of China in the world affairs. Chinese historians will keep on finding valid proof of prehistoric Chinese spaceflights until the Politburo orders them to shut up.

The Arabs:

Too bad. Islam with all its key figures is datable to XV-XVI century A. D. Arabic historians may find consolation in the crucial historical role of the Ottoman Empire in the XVI-XVII century. The trouble is that this empire was initially a Christian state, with Hagia Sophia identifiable as Temple of Solomon, according to Fomenko! We can only guess if the acquisition of Alexander the Great (a Macedonian and a Christian) as the founder of the Muslim World Empire will make Fomenko's theories more acceptable to the Arabic mainstream. He certainly does not spare any holy cows at all, claiming The Stone of Qa'Aba in Mecca to contain the lost Arch of the Covenant.

The Divinity:

Despite of reiterated statement that his theory is all about chronology and not Religion, Fomenko stirs up a whole condominium of wasp nests. His collection of anathemas, fatwa, and other condemnations from all parties concerned is already considerable. Little wonder, considering that the history of religions à la Fomenko looks as follows: the pre-Christian period (before the XI century and JC), Bacchic Christianity (XI-XII century, before and after JC), JC Christianity (XII-XVI century) and its subsequent mutations into Orthodox Christianity, the Catholicism, Islam, Buddhism, and so on.

According to Fomenko we know strictly NOTHING about the events that predate the X century A. D.

St Augustin was prescient when he spoke unto us: "be wary of mathematicians, particularly when they speak the truth."

Something of a disappointment.......2005-09-09

After having read the first volume of this expected series of 7 volumes I was triggered by the thesis of these authors that ancient Greek and Roman history did in fact take place in the Middle Ages. So I started studying medieval history of the Middle East - also known as Islamic history - to find out if the opponents of the ancient Greeks and Romans - the Acheamenid Persians, Sassanids, Scythians, Egyptians, etc. - also have their duplicates in medieval history. My search was disappointing: none of the many medieval Islamic dynasties seemed to correspond to the ancient middle eastern rulers.

However, I did find a close correspondence between Herodotus' Persian kings and medieval events:

- the defeat and capture of an Anatolian king - the Lydian Croesus - by the Persian conqueror Cyrus is identical to the defeat and capture of another Anatolian king - sultan Bayezid - by the Asian/Mongol conqueror Tamerlane;
- the Persian conquest of Egypt by the cruel tyrant Cambyses reds almost exactly as the Ottoman conquest of Egypt by Selim the Grim (note the nickname!);
- Darius the Lawgiver of the Persian Empire looks very much alike to Sulayman the Magnificent, the Lawgiver in Islamic history;
- Xerxes, whose main claim to fame is to be defeated by the Greeks at the naval battle of Salamis, looks like Selim II (the Sot) whose main claim to fame is to be defeated by a Spanish-Italian alliance at the naval battle of Lepanto.

I should have expected Fomenko et al. to arrive at similar conclusions, however, they claim that the Persian kings are the alter egos of the Angevin kings of Sicily whose biographies do not contain the exploits of the Persian kings.

The similiarities I indicate lead to the conclusion that Herodotus must have written his Histories at the close of the 16th century. But this is extremely late, given that Herodotus is "the Father of History", so therefore all other "ancient" histories must have been fabricated even later. Yet, the founders of modern chronology - Scaliger and Petavius - laid their foundations also at the close of the 16th century and had the full corpus of ancient histories already at their disposal.

It seems to me that Fomenko has to address these inconsistencies, maybe in the forthcoming 5 volumes?

Another critique of their book is that the correspondencies between different rulers are often based on a superficial comparison of the biographies; upon a more thorough comparison many details appear that do not correspond at all.

Finally, the authors rely heavily on the works of Gregorovius (1821-1891!!) - his medieval histories of Rome and Athens - as the source of medieval history; these works are - at least in the West - hoplessly outdated and have been superceded by more up-to-date works (for instance, Julius Norwich's trilogy on Byzantine history is not even cited).

Romulus courts Helen, Paris founds Rome, Moses goes to Troy.........2005-07-30

If you agree with Fomenko that Roman chronology is basically the foundation of the entire edifice of global chronology; you would also certainly agree that despite its numerous gaps and inconsistencies, Roman history is the best-documented field of ancient history, and thus a reference scale. But how well is the actual date of the Eternal City's foundation known?

Firstly, Rome is supposed to have been founded by the Trojans who had to flee after the fall of Troy. Some claim Rome to have been founded by Aeneas and Ulysses shortly after Troy had fallen; others are of the opinion that there was an entire dynasty that ruled for 500 years between the fall of Troy and the foundation of Rome.

Well, that's just an innocent 500 years long misunderstanding compared with what heretic Fomenko says, asserts, proves in his second volume: Second Roman Empire, Third Roman Empire, Biblical Kingdom of Israel, Biblical Kingdom of Judah, Holy Roman Empire are stories about basically same events, written from different points of view at different times. The underlying events have actually taken place during xii-xv cy. These histories have been written and perfected by multitude of highly talented humanist and clerical writers of xiii-xvi cy disguised as "ancients" with glorious names like Homer, Pluto, Thucydides etc..Chronology 2.0 beta..

Historians are kindly invited to report the bugs.

The Seven Deadly Sins (Igniting Worship Series)

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Dare to Dive In!: Strategies And Resources for Involving Your Whole Church in Worship

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Dare to Dive In!: Strategies And Resources for Involving Your Whole Church in Worship
Heather Kirk-Davidoff , Nancy Wood-Lyczak , and Nancy Wood Lyczak
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Great ideas!.......2006-11-10

Go ahead - try some fun in worship! There is enough here to delight all ages and involve all levels of worshippers.

worship for a new generation.......2006-05-23

I love this book! Packed with resources and real life stories, it leads the reader to consider ways to faithfully and sensitively lead the congregation into experiencing the word authentically and engaging with each other in ways that will build community and hope. Also check out their other book, Talking Faith, which is similarly well written and full of useful ideas.

Creativity and Worship CAN go hand in hand!.......2006-04-13

How can we communicate the message of our Christian faith in ways that can be deeply heard by all generations of people? Dare to Dive In answers this question by utilizing creative ideas for the parish that will both excite children AND engage adults. As a pastor of a small congregation, I understand the difficulty of communicating the word of God in a way that can be understood by all ages of people. This resource provides a creative and intergenerational approach to worship. It is neither "contemporary" nor "traditional" but simply "creative." Once again, the authors -- both pastors themselves -- have come through with ideas to invite all ages of congregants into worship. I highly recommend this book for pastors and worship leaders who are ready for a change.

A Wealth of Creative Ideas.......2006-04-13

This book is filled with fantastic ideas that will have you thinking about your church's worship in new and different ways. There is true depth to this pool--"Dare to Dive In" dares preachers and worship leaders to go into the deep end of encounter with an unpredictable God. The authors challenge those of us who usher others into the presence of God on Sunday mornings to engage mind and body, left brain and right brain, as we present our worship. There are terrific ideas here, presented with deeply faithful rationale. Let yourself be inspired by this book to find a new freshness in worship.

Great Worship Planning Resource.......2006-04-10

Think of this as an idea book for worship planning. Dare to Dive In is exactly what's needed by worship leaders who want to lead experiential worship services. The authors are creative powerhouses and their book is packed with one great suggestion after another. Whether you're looking for liturgical season planning ideas or ideas for special worship services, this book is a great resource. Best of all, reading Dare to Dive In spurred my own imagination and creative thinking for worship.

The Process of Admission to Ordained Ministry: A Comparative Study (Vol. III), Contemporary Rites and General Conclusions

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James F. Puglisi
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Father Puglisi examines liturgical texts currently in use by the Roman Catholic Church and certain Lutheran, Reformed, Anglican, and Methodist Churches of western Europe and the United States. For each text, he evaluates the version in use today and its previous version to identify the changes made over time and to see the various influences that it underwent. Father Puglisi also identifies the various roles of those active in the celebration and who fills those roles.

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"Plug & Chug" is the way churches have planned worship for years. You start with the same order of worship for every service, plug different hymns and readings into their respective slots, and chug right along. It makes the job of worship planner, usually done by the senior pastor, seem much easier. In a church in which the senior pastor or staff member does everything, worship needs to be cranked out lest it cause burnout. The problem with "plug & chug" is that it leads to "bore & snore." Worship becomes routine, and the encounter with a holy and transcendent God, domesticated. If worship is to become transformative, an offering of everything we are and have to God, then the "by-the-numbers" approach to worship design must find its place in the dustbin of bad ideas. The best way to achieve dynamic, authentic worship is to take its planning out of the hands of isolated individuals or functionary committees, and locate it with groups of people who are convinced that worship is a life-or-death matter. In this groundbreaking work, Cathy Townley demonstrates how worship teams, comprised of diverse groups of clergy and laity, long-time Christians and new believers, core and fringe members, are transforming the practice of Christian worship throughout North America. She shows the reader how worship teams come together around a core passion for the encounter with the Holy, how they channel the chaos of multiple understandings of God into a common experience of worship, and how the worship that comes out of such teams is rapidly becoming the primary way to reach the pre-Christian population of North America. Much more than a how-to approach, this volume offers worship leaders and teams guidance to transform the experience of worship into a life-changing time spent in the presence of God.

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An Expanded Vision for Worship Teams .......2007-09-04

This book presents the argument that "the best way to achieve dynamic, authentic worship is to ... locate it with groups of people" (from the back cover). Townley advocates a "bottom-up" approach to designing worship, an approach originating from teams in close communion with one another and with God. The task of the worship designer is to tell the story of what God is doing in the world, and the best way to do this, according to the author, is to get creative and deeply spiritual people into teams.

The strength of this book is in casting a new vision for worship planning and for worship teams. Rather than seeing the team merely as a tool for implementing music or drama in worship, this book describes a model where collaboration grows out of shared experience of God's work in each team members' life. That becomes a basis for discovering and expressing what God is doing in the life of the congregation and in the world. And that, Townley, asserts, is what authentic, dynamic worship is.

Townley argues that since this new model of worship grows from the interaction of team members, there is no "formula" for structuring worship, or for structuring worship teams. Throughout most of the book, she urges worship designers to form their own identity and way of working together. One drawback of this position is that she is short on specifics. Contrary to what the back cover asserts, this book is not about "How to recruit the most creative members of the congregation and mold them into an effective team..." The book is more about WHY one should recruit the most creative members of the congregation and mold them into an effective team. Then the book describes some characteristics of good worship design teams, but without any clear directions for how to develop these characteristics.

The book's greatest weakness is its organization. Townley is a dramatist by background, and has chosen to structure this book like a play script. Each chapter has a "Cast of Characters," "Stage Directions," "Directors Notes" and "Asides." The analogy is clumsy, and none of these structural devices make the ideas clearer. Woven throughout the book is a series of dramatic monologues and scenes, all which have some familial connection with the topic, but don't, in my opinion, clarify or illuminate.

Townley is a United Methodist minister working in a Lutheran church, and it's clear that her context is American Mainline Protestantism. Churches of a more evangelical bent might not have the same objections or barriers that the author anticipates and tries to counter.

Despite the weaknesses, I would recommend this book to anyone who is looking for a new model for designing/constructing/structuring worship that starts with and in community.

To Know You More: Cultivating the Heart of the Worship Leader

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To Know You More: Cultivating the Heart of the Worship Leader
Andy Park
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The WorshipMusic.com 2003 Book of the Year!Andy Park writes, "I've learned through the years that becoming a worship leader involves far more than developing a set of skills--it's all about developing a life in God."Here's your opportunity to sit at the feet of one who has for twenty-five years led contemporary worship services in the United States and Canada. In Park's book you'll get an inside look at how this worship leader has learned to follow the leading of the Spirit as he brings others into God's presence. And you'll find practical advice, experienced counsel and inspiring ideas on a variety of issues like

songwriting
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Above all, Park will help you discover what it means for you as a worship leader to be first and foremost a worshiper.

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Good book.......2007-02-13

This book comes from a nondenominational view in my opinion. The writer and his writings seem to come from the Jesus Movement of the 60/70's (of which I was a part). It has a much needed approach in that it starts with looking at yourself as a Worship Leader first. That's refreshing.

Awesome.......2006-03-19

I would recommend this book to anyone interested in being a worship leader. I have found it to be very informative. It is an awesome book.

This book got it all.......2005-09-02

If you are looking to find a book that has everything you need to know about worship, and how to worship, then this book is for you. Andy Park may not be as popular as Redman or Tomlin when it comes to worship in music but that is different when it comes to worship in words. He knows how to put "worship" into a book filled with information that we, worship leaders need to know.

Believe me, every since I lent this book to my friends, it was hard to get it back. Even if you didn't learn anything from this book, you got 240 back-to-back pages of information for reference. The only down side to this book is that it's not compact, or too big to fit my guitar case. With this book, you get more than what you pay for.

A valuable resource for current and future worship leaders.......2004-08-19

This book has a pretty limited target audience, which makes it exceptionally useful for people in that group - people who lead worship in protestant churches. And with 17 years of experience, Andy Park is an appropriate person to write this book. We sing some of Andy's songs at my church, and I figured that anyone who wrote worship choruses that are so widely known must have something to say that's worth hearing. "To Know You More" provides a great mix of history, philosophy, and practical suggestions related to leading worship.

Throughout the book, Andy shares openly about the challenges he's faced in leading worship. These stories make this book inviting and helpful. I see that many of my insecurities and second-guesses are not so unique. Page after page, I found myself saying, "Yeah, I've been there. That's exactly how I felt." There's comfort in knowing that I'm not the only one to wonder if I'm really up to the task of trying to create an environment that enables people to have an encounter with God.

I appreciated the history of song styles that have been used in worship. I didn't realize that hymns were just as ground-breaking and controversial in their day as contemporary worship songs are in some churches today. In short, today's style of worship is culturally relevant and legitimate, even though there is and will continue to be resistance. In 50 years, church-goers may have an entirely different style, and may have the same opinions about today's worship choruses that we have about traditional hymns. That won't diminish the value of either style.

Andy writes about how to pick songs, rehearse, develop other worship leaders, and part ways when it just isn't working. He also writes about the various roles of worship leaders and song writers, who serve to varying degrees as priests, prophets, healers, teachers, and evangelists. To me, this was the best part of the book. Many people think the worship leader is like a choir director for the congregation, but there's so much more to it than that. Park defines the complete picture of what a worship leader is.

A great and practical book for any worship leader!.......2004-06-21

I have been a worship leader for quite a few years now and I still found some of the ideas and tips in this book most helpful. Andy Park gives some truly helpful tips for leading worship bands of all sizes. It's not just biblical ideas and the stand-by types worship leadership teaching either. It's very grounded and human. Expect to be able to relate to this book.

Visual Leadership: The Church Leader As Imagesmith

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Visual Leadership: The Church Leader As Imagesmith
Rob Weber
Manufacturer: Abingdon Press
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Binding: Paperback

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Rob Weber stresses the importance for a church leader in our current multi-sensory and multi-cultural society to lead through engaging people in the multisensory world of images. This kind of leadership requires skills in storytelling and media. The leader must develop sensitivity to a variety of media formsas well as an understanding of the multiple levels of story, understanding and image out of which (and into which) people live.

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